The Missing Comment
September 1, 2009 – 1:28 pmOver on The Gauge Connection I was engaged in a lively discussion about the arrow of time with the blog owner, Marco Frasca. For some reason he decided to censor my latest comment, and notify me he will not publish anything else by me on his blog. Touchy, touchy.
Seeing as I have an acute allergy to censorship, I will publish my last comment here, as long with anything else Marco chooses to censor. If you are interested in the nature of the arrow of time, you may want to head over to The Gauge Connection for the discussion, and then come back to read my missing comment (below). You can decide for yourself who is right.
For more information, The Reference Frame has a good post on the subject. I am also working on a series of posts that I hope will demystify the second law of thermodynamics, entropy, and the arrow of time.
Here is my missing comment:
>> Of course, even if we are physicists (are you?),
Yes.
>> definitions are important. For one reason, when one goes to do measurements, vagueness can be of no help and our main tool is mathematics. Sloppiness should be rejected on any ground.
Was I vague? Sloppy? I defined exactly a test for whether or not there is an arrow of time. You can do this test in a laboratory, and you can do it in a simulation.
The test is experimental, not theoretical, so the only mathematics you need is the ability to count. Before we try to build a theory, we should have some measurements that we are trying to explain, no? We are talking about some physical phenomenon here, right? Or do you want to have a philosophical discussion?
It’s kind of funny that earlier you lectured me about what is science, and now you make this strange claim that seems to suggest mathematics comes before experiment…
You keep talking about the arrow of time, yet you refuse to discuss what is or is not an example of an arrow of time. You say we are drowning in definitions, so I suggest a simple test. You don’t even say whether you accept this test; you wave it away claiming it’s `vague’, while clearly the opposite is true. And yet, you refuse to provide a definition, an example, or a test of your own for what is the arrow of time… Why are you trying to keep this discussion on a philosophical level, instead of actually drilling down to the heart of the matter?
>> I do not need to do your simulation.
Again, you are ignoring my simple question. Here it is again: What is the result of the test I suggested? Will you not even grant me the answer to this simple question?
I am not yet trying to draw any conclusions, I’m just asking — what is the result of the experiment? What is the result of the simulation?
>> I take two liquids both in equilibrium
Well no, not really. I am taking two liquids in a specific microstate. This is not an equilibrium. I am repeating the experiment many times, but each time I am starting in a specific microstate. Not in equilibrium.
Talking about equilibrium is already trying to model the system using statistical mechanics. But the confusion lies in the transition from deterministic mechanics to statistical mechanics, so I am not using statistical mechanics — I’m sticking to the most basic things.
>> and I make them mix.
No. I let them evolve according to Newton’s laws. We want to see whether they mix or not, and this is why we do the experiment.
>> You can change these distributions as you like, making them unphysical if you want, but the problem will remain.
Again, what is this `problem’? All I did was suggest an experiment and a simulation. I haven’t drawn any conclusions. How can there already be a problem?
>> The question should be: Who puts such deterministic systems with such initial probability distributions?
What do you mean by `who puts’? I am trying to learn how a deterministic system evolves in time. I say: If the laws of nature are deterministic, and I do this experiment, what will be the result? I am not claiming that this describes nature.
>> In conclusion, you introduce an arrow of time since the start and you are a step below Boltzmann.
How did I introduce an arrow of time? Does determinism introduce an arrow of time? Does the distribution for the initial conditions introduce it? Please explain.
and
, together describing the mass and spin of a particle. A standard question is then, “why does the algebra have two Casimirs?” and the standard answer is, “because it is a rank 2 algebra, for instance taking
as the Cartan”. Well this seems wrong, since we can also take
as the Cartan, which is of dimension 4.
is a complex Lie algebra, then an ideal in
of
and
,
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for any
).
, and the only ideals in
.
is a sum of translations. It is also not semisimple, which I guess can be seen by considering the
decomposition of the Lorentz subalgebra, then adding translations which will ‘link’ the two components.



, then:


















is some integer and
is 
is the orbit radius and
is the linear momentum. It is easy to show that this is still correct relativistically (*).

is the electron charge and
is its rest mass.


recovers the non-relativistic energies, as expected.
, the largest possible Z is about 137. Above that, according to the model, the system is unstable.
and making a change of coordinates:


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